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VIOLET GREY: WHAT WAS THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING THE SUBJECT OF A DOCUMENTARY LIKE? DID YOU EVER FEEL LIKE THE CAMERA WAS AN INTRUSION, OR DID YOU ENJOY ITS COMPANY?
IRIS APFEL: It was wonderful, it was painless. I went about my business while they filmed, and I didn’t know if they were going to use the footage or not. Nor did they. Albert [Maysles] never worked with a script or an outline — he just took footage.
V.G.: WHOSE STYLE DO YOU ADMIRE TODAY?
I.A.: I can’t say that I do. There are not too many original people around. There were a few people in the old days that I admired greatly, like Pauline de Rothschild and Millicent Rogers, but that seems to have vanished.
V.G.: WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO WOMEN ON ACHIEVING A PERSONAL STYLE?
I.A.: They have to work at it, they have to experiment, and if you want personal style you can’t copy anyone else or it’s not personal style anymore. It’s trial and error to get to know who you are, how much you can handle, what you can carry, whether people are looking at you, and how much effort you want to spend in learning who you are. And if you don’t want to do all of that and it makes you uncomfortable, I always say that it’s better to be happy than well dressed.
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[Iris is]the only woman who can make a
22-year-old fashionista wish they were 90, have white hair and need CONCEPT GLASSES.
— Donald RobertSON, Fashion Illustrator
V.G.: ON AN AVERAGE DAY, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU TO PICK OUT AN OUTFIT?
I.A.: I’m very, very fast; I can’t put a timer on it, but it’s quick. But I haven’t had an average day in my life, and I don’t decide about an outfit. I am not, not, not a fashionista, and I do not spend my life thinking about clothes. I just love clothes; I think they’re fun and wonderful and an adjunct to living.
V.G.: WHAT DO YOU THINK OF FASHION BLOGGERS AND WEBSITES? DO YOU READ ANY OF THEM?
I.A.: Technologically, I live in the 17th century — I don’t use a computer. When it comes to the Internet, I’m like Blanche DuBois and I live through the kindness of strangers. If someone sees something interesting, they copy it out and send it to me; otherwise I don’t have a clue what’s going on. I am not a fan of social media. I think it’s a curse and very intrusive — very narcissistic and silly. There are so many more important things to do, I think, but who am I?
V.G.: DO YOU ENJOY THE ATTENTION YOU GET THESE DAYS?
I.A.: I am a very private person, but it’s nice to be recognized when people do it pleasantly and say “hello.” At my stage in the game it’s usually quite enjoyable.
V.G.: YOU’VE BEEN MARRIED TO YOUR HUSBAND, CARL, FOR 67 YEARS. WHAT IS THE SECRET TO A LASTING MARRIAGE?
I.A.: A sense of humor, being able to laugh at yourself and not taking yourself too seriously, and giving one another your own space. I always say my husband has given me all the space I need, except in the closet.
I always say my husband has given me all the space I need, except in the closet.
— Iris Apfel, pictured here with husband, Carl, in 2010 (Bill Hider / Getty Images)
V.G.: FROM YOUR KATE SPADE CAMPAIGN TO JOAN DIDION IN THE CÉLINE ADS TO HELEN MIRREN AS THE FACE OF L’ORÉAL, OLDER WOMEN APPEAR TO BE HAVING AN ASPIRATIONAL “MOMENT.” IS THIS JUST A PASSING TREND, OR DO YOU THINK IT REPRESENTS A MORE PERMANENT SHIFT IN OUR ATTITUDE TOWARD AGING?
I.A.: I haven’t seen them in those advertisements; I have been too busy to even turn on the television. But I think it’s a wise idea because the older market has been totally neglected and those are the women who have all the money.
V.G.: HOW DO YOU DECIDE HOW MANY BANGLES TO WEAR?
I.A.: I usually grab an arm full and throw them on. Depending on whether they look good, then I make a change. I don’t plan any of these things and I don’t have any rules and regulations.
V.G.: YOU SPENT DECADES TRAVELING THE WORLD’S MARKETPLACES FOR YOUR TEXTILE COMPANY, OLD WORLD WEAVES. WHAT IS THE KEY TO HAGGLING AND GETTING A GOOD BARGAIN?
I.A.: Well, you can’t haggle with everybody, but there are many places where you’re expected to haggle. Like in some of the bazaars or in the Middle East or in North Africa, if you gave the man the first price that he asked you, you totally ruined his day. He expects to haggle and he thinks, My God, if I asked for $500 and you were stupid enough to pay $500, I should have asked for $1,000. It’s part of the game, but you have to know who and where, and it takes some practice.
V.G.: YOU’VE DONE SO MUCH OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR CAREER. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU’VE NEVER TRIED BUT WOULD LIKE TO?
I.A.: Something probably will come; I’ve never had a business plan. Someone will think of something and if I’m lucky enough, I’ll get the chance to do it.